Reduce RFI / QRN Noise at the Antenna

Reduce RFI / noise at the antenna

Extremely severe Plasma TV noise from my wifes 2005 62″ LG which by pure chance or design occurs right on cb radio channel 35 = 27.355 lsb AND ch#38 !! Nothing on other channels!!
This has never really been an issue for me as I dont get on evenings 0r nightime when she has the TV on.
But now I am LIVE Streaming CB Radio on the internet linked by / / ?24/7 if my equipment is up to the task as I do get the odd BSoD Blue Screen of Death wich drops the connection.
Initially tried streaming audio with NCH software system but they reneged on the terms of use. So I found YOUTUBE is beta streaming and tried that with third party software but my upload bandwidth on Dodo ADSL was not up to the task.
Then I discovered the Ustream service which runs in a Browser window and is easy to setup and make work. So now I have the live streaming running on the most busy used cb radio channel of #35 or #38 at times if the dx is in – it turns to crap in the evenings with the plasma TV interference. I have obviously tried to put ferrites everywhere on the TV antenna cable & 240VAC Cable as well as the cb antenna coax and power cables but to no avail, the QRN ?/ RFI is still there! The current RX for the Stream is my PC-122 built into the Icom IC-701[HERE] connnected to my dual DDRR’s [HERE]
30 August 2016 – So, what to do? Googled the article below the VK3ZMX LOOP and will try to implement some ideas….. more soon

6th Jan 2018
NOT a DDRR, but an interesting Low Noise Loop antenna alternative from Aussie VK3ZMX

In development is a 24 to 54Mhz loop -For CB, Marine and Amateur Bands like 6m


Specifications:?10mm Alloy Construction -?UHDP/Polycarb insulator TBA -?5mm Alloy driver ring

Size 44cm in Diameter.? More on Facebook Group

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Some more on Antenna NOISE REDUCTION.
First, I’d be sure it’s actually the antenna picking up the noise, and not something else. If you don’t have a balun on that dipole, probably your feedline is picking up all the noise in your house.
Any other wires attached to your receiver can also make good noise antennas, especially the power cord, which is attached to your home’s wiring, and coupled to all the noisy stuff running on it. Get some ferrite beads designed for EMI control, and start snapping them on any wire attached to the receiver. Keep snapping them on until you stop getting improvement.
If you have cooperative neighbors, do the same to their noisy electronics. Ferrite beads work for keeping EMI out of your receiver, and also for preventing it from leaving the source in the first place.
Once that’s done, the next thing is to get the antenna as far away from other noise sources as possible. Powerlines, neighbors, etc. Put it on the tallest tower allowed in your neighborhood. In urban areas, your options are limited, but do what you can.
The rest is just trying to null the noise based on its direction, or it’s polarization, or something else. Every antenna has a particular polarization and radiation pattern. You don’t know the same of your noise sources, but just by playing with the orientation of the antenna you might by chance find an arrangement that works well. Try not to be parallel to power lines, etc. A directional antenna helps, but is probably impracticably large at HF.
At this point, you are running out of options. Some of the noise is in the far field of the antenna, and there just isn’t much you can do about this besides move.
Other noise is in the near field, which at HF, can be quite big. In this region your antenna isn’t acting as an antenna, but rather one winding of a transformer, or one plate of a capacitor.
There is one additional game you can play here that might help. Remember that electromagnetic radiation is made of two fields: an electric field and a magnetic field. In the far field, these two are inseparably linked, related by the impedance of free space. However, in the near field, you can have a strong electric field and a week magnetic field (capacitors), or vice-versa (transformers).
You can build different antennas which, at some distance in the near-field, have a different sensitivity to one type of field or the other. W8JI has a good article on small loop antennas, and describes this in some detail. In particular, there’s this great graph:
dipole and loop impedance vs. distance
A high impedance means the antenna is more sensitive to electric rather than magnetic fields. So, you can see that if your noise source is very close (less than 10 meters for this antenna) and is largely E-field noise, you’d want a loop.
However, keep in mind:

  • the impedance of all antennas are identical and equal to the impedance of free space (377?) in the far-field. This only makes a difference for noise sources in the near-field, which couple to your receiver by mutual inductance or capacitance, not EM radiation.
  • the impedance changes up and down in the near-field with distance, and if a particular antenna seems to have less noise, it’s due to chance and your particular noise source’s characteristics, not some magical “noise immunity” intrinsic to some antenna design.

That said, most people already have dipoles, so if they find them noisy, sometimes they have luck switching to a loop, which provides a complementary near-field impedance, and just might be better in a particular environment.

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